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	<title>Comments on: Guitar Praise Stirs Up A Conversation (a.k.a.&#8211;Can There Be Such a Thing as a Christian Video Game?)</title>
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		<title>By: Guitar Hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guitar Hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally had this idea over the christmas break at church!!  Such a good idea my friend.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Gamasutra: &quot;the older movie industry has always been adept at serving a diverse range of audiences, tastes and interests.&quot; No, the older movie industry included more Christian directors and actors, like John Ford and Charleton Heston. They weren&#039;t trying to serve diverse audiences. They were following their own hearts. 

Making Christian art isn&#039;t celebrating diversity. The vast majority of Americans still claim to be Christian (it&#039;s less common in Europe). Christian games are uncommon mainly because of the anti-Christian sentiments that prevail in every entertainment industry and because the Christian worldview is difficult to fit into typical game design templates. 

I&#039;ve tried many times to come up with the basics of an action-adventure game based on Christian beliefs (which doesn&#039;t necessarily mean praise... just setting), and one belief alone makes it very difficult: Christians believe evil is an absence (of good), not a presence, and that evil has already lost the war. How do you portray evil in a game without making it appear equally powerful?

@Colin: DLC for Guitar Hero would have been better, but I&#039;d be surprised if Red Octane was open to the idea. Still, Digital Praise should have pitched the idea to them before making a clone.

@Brian: Why didn&#039;t you tell me you have a music site?!  I&#039;ve got a music site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/hallower&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on myspace&lt;/a&gt; too, and one of the songs on there is a Christian song (&quot;Our Father&quot;... yes, it starts with the prayer). I&#039;m Catholic, so the song reveres Mary too, but I expect you&#039;ll enjoy it anyway. Not surprisingly, it&#039;s my best recording.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peterkreeft.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Kreeft&lt;/a&gt; is one of my favorite modern theologians. Him and Father John Richard Neuhaus of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthings.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;First Things&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Gamasutra: &#8220;the older movie industry has always been adept at serving a diverse range of audiences, tastes and interests.&#8221; No, the older movie industry included more Christian directors and actors, like John Ford and Charleton Heston. They weren&#8217;t trying to serve diverse audiences. They were following their own hearts. </p>
<p>Making Christian art isn&#8217;t celebrating diversity. The vast majority of Americans still claim to be Christian (it&#8217;s less common in Europe). Christian games are uncommon mainly because of the anti-Christian sentiments that prevail in every entertainment industry and because the Christian worldview is difficult to fit into typical game design templates. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried many times to come up with the basics of an action-adventure game based on Christian beliefs (which doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean praise&#8230; just setting), and one belief alone makes it very difficult: Christians believe evil is an absence (of good), not a presence, and that evil has already lost the war. How do you portray evil in a game without making it appear equally powerful?</p>
<p>@Colin: DLC for Guitar Hero would have been better, but I&#8217;d be surprised if Red Octane was open to the idea. Still, Digital Praise should have pitched the idea to them before making a clone.</p>
<p>@Brian: Why didn&#8217;t you tell me you have a music site?!  I&#8217;ve got a music site <a href="http://www.myspace.com/hallower" rel="nofollow">on myspace</a> too, and one of the songs on there is a Christian song (&#8220;Our Father&#8221;&#8230; yes, it starts with the prayer). I&#8217;m Catholic, so the song reveres Mary too, but I expect you&#8217;ll enjoy it anyway. Not surprisingly, it&#8217;s my best recording.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peterkreeft.com/" rel="nofollow">Peter Kreeft</a> is one of my favorite modern theologians. Him and Father John Richard Neuhaus of <a href="http://www.firstthings.com" rel="nofollow">First Things</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: a714generation</title>
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		<dc:creator>a714generation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s what we&#039;re talking about.  Rock Band has kind of already started with Flyleaf and Paramore (you&#039;ll notice that Flyleaf is on the other game&#039;s setlist as well).  I&#039;m honestly not that interested in a PC only, seemingly shoddily made GH clone.  

But I did talk to a father the other day who wanted to get his 11 year old son a GH or RB.  For him, singing sexual innuendo and swear words like hell and damn are big deals, as they are for many Christian parents.  

It&#039;s a shame, cause it might cause them to miss out on a well produced game, but I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d feel comfortable with my 11 year old singing the lyrics of My Sharona.  The first time I sang that song and really listened to the lyrics, I just laughed and said &quot;this song is creepy!&quot;

In that case, it might make sense in some markets to do a GH CCM bonus disc, ala GH 80&#039;s.  If it&#039;s financially viable, it&#039;s a win-win for everyone--Activision makes money, Christians get music they listen to, and no one else has to play it if they don&#039;t want to, or even have it on their disc.  

I guess it just comes down to, everyone would like to see some of the music they listen to on there.  Christians are no different.   

It&#039;s just too bad that most Christians feel the need to wall themselves off from society, instead of engaging with it.  Especially when it degenerates into poorly made knock offs of other successful forms of entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re talking about.  Rock Band has kind of already started with Flyleaf and Paramore (you&#8217;ll notice that Flyleaf is on the other game&#8217;s setlist as well).  I&#8217;m honestly not that interested in a PC only, seemingly shoddily made GH clone.  </p>
<p>But I did talk to a father the other day who wanted to get his 11 year old son a GH or RB.  For him, singing sexual innuendo and swear words like hell and damn are big deals, as they are for many Christian parents.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame, cause it might cause them to miss out on a well produced game, but I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d feel comfortable with my 11 year old singing the lyrics of My Sharona.  The first time I sang that song and really listened to the lyrics, I just laughed and said &#8220;this song is creepy!&#8221;</p>
<p>In that case, it might make sense in some markets to do a GH CCM bonus disc, ala GH 80&#8217;s.  If it&#8217;s financially viable, it&#8217;s a win-win for everyone&#8211;Activision makes money, Christians get music they listen to, and no one else has to play it if they don&#8217;t want to, or even have it on their disc.  </p>
<p>I guess it just comes down to, everyone would like to see some of the music they listen to on there.  Christians are no different.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too bad that most Christians feel the need to wall themselves off from society, instead of engaging with it.  Especially when it degenerates into poorly made knock offs of other successful forms of entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you guys think about DLC as in songs instead of a stand alone unit... might be more commercially viable, no?</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Falzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Falzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same reaction when I read the Penny Arcade article.  Thanks for pointing out the Gamasutra article, it was a good read, and well summarized here.  

I think it would be great if there was a Christian Pack for GH or RB.  If it&#039;s one thing that the Wii has shown the gaming industry, there are untapped markets out there.  I think the Christian market would be one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same reaction when I read the Penny Arcade article.  Thanks for pointing out the Gamasutra article, it was a good read, and well summarized here.  </p>
<p>I think it would be great if there was a Christian Pack for GH or RB.  If it&#8217;s one thing that the Wii has shown the gaming industry, there are untapped markets out there.  I think the Christian market would be one of them.</p>
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